[Refurbished] Loire 4-in-1 vegan drink maker

Keine genauen Angaben würde ich nicht mehr kaufen

I wouldn't buy anything without precise information.

La macchina sembrerebbe ottima, il problema non c'è un manuale di istruzioni che ti spieghi come utilizzare tutte le varie funzioni.

The machine seems to be excellent, the problem is there is no instruction manual that explains how to use all the various functions.

Scrivo questa recensione dopo quasi 2 mesi dall'acquisto. La Klarstein per il latte vegetale è entrata di diritto nella mia routine quotidiana in cucina. Mi piace perché posso preparare facilmente latte di soia, latte di mandorla o avena partendo dagli ingredienti secchi (quindi senza dover ricorrere ai prodotti confezionati.)Le funzioni preimpostate e il pannello touch sono piuttosto intuitivi: seleziono il programma, avvio e lei gestisce riscaldamento dell'acqua e la produzione della bevanda vegetale fino alla fine, senza che io debba intervenire. Trovo molto comoda anche la possibilità di preparare succhi, frullati e zuppe (queste ultime non le ho ancora provate, ma sono piuttosto curioso), così non rimane un apparecchio “monouso” occupa‑spazio.La vera chicca? Il sistema autopulente! Fa tutto da sé, riduce tantissimo il tempo di lavaggio, soprattutto quando preparo bevande dense o calde - di solito mi basta un risciacquo finale. La capacità della caraffa è sufficiente a fare in modo che io possa avere anche più porzioni e riesco preparare il latte per la mattinata o per più persone senza dover ripetere il ciclo.!!! L’unico aspetto da tenere a mente è che il motore è piuttosto potente e il rumore si sente (soprattutto se la usate la mattina), specialmente nelle fasi di "trituraggio" più intense, quindi lo uso preferibilmente in orari in cui non disturbo nessuno.Nel complesso, per il mio uso quotidiano, trovo che offra un ottimo compromesso tra versatilità, praticità e qualità delle bevande che preparo a casa. Per non parlare del risparmio e dell'inquinamento, non immaginate quante scatole e soldi risparmiati!

I'm writing this review almost two months after purchasing it. The Klarstein plant-based milk maker has become a regular part of my daily kitchen routine. I like it because I can easily make soy, almond, or oat milk from dry ingredients (so without having to resort to packaged products). The preset functions and touch panel are quite intuitive: I select the program, start it, and it manages the water heating and the production of the plant-based drink until the end, without me having to intervene. I also find the ability to prepare juices, smoothies, and soups (I haven't tried the latter yet, but I'm quite curious) very convenient, so it doesn't remain a "disposable" appliance that takes up space. The real gem? The self-cleaning system! It does everything automatically, significantly reducing cleaning time, especially when making thick or hot drinks—a final rinse is usually enough for me. The carafe's capacity is sufficient for me to make multiple servings, and I can prepare milk for the morning or for multiple people without having to repeat the cycle. The only thing to keep in mind is that the motor is quite powerful and makes a lot of noise (especially if you use it in the morning), especially during the more intense "crushing" phases, so I prefer to use it at times when I won't disturb anyone. Overall, for my daily use, I find it offers an excellent compromise between versatility, convenience, and the quality of the drinks I make at home. Not to mention the savings and pollution—you can't imagine how many boxes and money I've saved!

actualizo: ya la he llevado al punto limpio. Hay muchos rincones imposibles de limpiar bien. Mejor una licuadora desmontable con calor tipo panasonic o xiaomi..muy bien. Es una licuadora con calor y con circuito de procesamiento unidireccional.Al recibirlo olía muchísimo a plástico e inmediatamente generé la devolución. La compañía muy bien, respondieron rápido con una etiqueta. Pero antes de devolverlo hice tres días de enjuagues de agua caliente y finalmente vi que se iba yendo el olor. El único elemento que huele a plástico cuando es nuevo es la tapa superior. El resto no huele, la jarra es de tritan. El modelo es Midea Mj Y3, cogí ésta porque es de midea. Sé que las otras de joyoung no están mal, pero me gusta midea.No me atrevería a hacer purée porque el sistema de compuerta que se abre y cierra para dejar salir la bebida preparada es inaccesible y ni se puede revisar bien ni se puede limpiar bien y no quiero que queden restos de fibras de verduras y cosas así ahí pudriéndose dentro del mecanismo. Lo uso solo para agua + frutos secos + especias + choc.Lo que hago es cada día prepararme una bebida caliente con algún fruto seco y cacao nibs. Siempre uso el programa cashew milk que sale a 60-65 grados. Uso solamente un vaso mío (la jarra que trae la uso solamente para la limpieza) y selecciono 300ml cashew milk.Siempre hago un preenjuague con agua fría (juice 300ml) y un lavado rápido posterior. De vez en cuando uno de los lavados a alta temperatura y con un pequeñísimo pequeñísimo pringue de mistol/fairy puesto arrastrando el dedo con restos de mistol/fairy en la cuba.. pero nada de nada casi, solo para quitar la grasa de los frutos secos.Hay algún momento en el que una llega a pensar si para 300ml de bebida no se gasta demasiado agua enjuagando. Bueno sí pero no, si lo desmontas y lavas bajo el grifo te comes litros también. Desmontable para lavavajillas sería el máximo ahorro pero ni esta ni las jarras de leche de soja lo son (algunas como panasonic, xiaomi o algunos robots de cocina sí, pero es un follón desmontar todo por un vaso de leche de avellanas calientes.) Tuve jarra de leche vegetal, que estaba muy bien también pero ésta se limpia y enjuaga mucho mejor y de forma muchísimo más cómoda con el circuito unidireccional.Resumiendo, yo me hago a diario un o dos vasos (uso directamente mi vaso) de 300ml de cualquier fruto seco y cualquier cosa que se me ocurra (cacao, canela..) y es muy fácil todo y agradable la bebida. Enjuago un porquito antes usando juice 300ml.. y después hago el lavado rápido, y el de alta temperatura de vez en cuando. El depósito trasero de agua tiene buena apertura y es posible echar más agua si se agota en el lavado sin poner y quitar contínuamente.

Update: I've already taken it to the recycling center. There are many hard-to-reach places that are impossible to clean properly. A detachable blender with a heating element, like a Panasonic or Xiaomi, would be much better. It's a blender with a heating element and a unidirectional processing circuit. When I received it, it smelled strongly of plastic, so I immediately initiated a return. The company was very helpful; they responded quickly with a label. But before returning it, I did three days of hot water rinses, and I finally noticed the smell was fading. The only part that smells like plastic when it's new is the top lid. The rest doesn't smell; the jug is made of Tritan. The model is a Midea MJ Y3; I chose this one because it's a Midea. I know the other Joyoung blenders aren't bad, but I prefer Midea. I wouldn't dare make purees with it because the gate system that opens and closes to dispense the prepared drink is inaccessible, and you can't properly inspect or clean it. I don't want any vegetable fibers or anything like that rotting inside the mechanism. I only use it for water, nuts, spices, and chocolate. What I do every day is make myself a hot drink with some nuts and cacao nibs. I always use the cashew milk program, which runs at 60-65 degrees Celsius. I only use one of my glasses (I only use the jug it comes with for cleaning) and select 300ml cashew milk. I always do a pre-rinse with cold water (300ml juice) and then a quick wash. Occasionally, I do one of the high-temperature washes with a tiny bit of dish soap, just scraping the tub with my finger and some residue... but it's barely enough, just to remove the oil from the nuts. Sometimes you wonder if you're using too much water rinsing for 300ml of drink. Well, yes and no, if you take it apart and wash it under the tap, you'll use liters too. Dishwasher-safe parts would be the biggest saving, but neither this one nor soy milk jugs are dishwasher-safe (some, like Panasonic, Xiaomi, or some food processors, are, but it's a hassle to take everything apart for a glass of hot hazelnut milk). I had a plant-based milk jug, which was also very good, but this one cleans and rinses much better and much more conveniently thanks to the one-way flow. In short, I make myself one or two 300ml glasses daily (I use my own glass) of any nut or anything else I fancy (cocoa, cinnamon, etc.), and it's all very easy and the drink is pleasant. I rinse it a little beforehand using Juice 300ml, and then I do a quick wash, and a high-temperature wash from time to time. The rear water tank has a good opening, and it's possible to add more water if it runs out during the wash without having to keep adding and removing it.

Wir sind mit dem Gerät sehr zufrieden und können nur bestätigen, was bereits unten geschrieben wurde. Die Anleitung ist etwas verwirrend, aber ausprobieren und dann funktioniert es. Die Milch ist sehr gut und ich bin so dankbar, muss ich keine Milchtüten mehr schleppen.

We are very happy with the device and can only confirm what has already been written below. The instructions are a bit confusing, but just try it out and it works. The milk is very good and I'm so grateful I don't have to lug around milk cartons anymore.

Wir sind mit dem Gerät total zufrieden. Die Milch schmeckt super und die anschließende, automatische Reinigung ist absolut Klasse. Tolles Produkt absolut empfehlenswert.

We are completely satisfied with the device. The milk tastes great, and the automatic cleaning afterwards is absolutely fantastic. A fantastic product, highly recommended.

Veramente comoda e produce degli ottimi risultati, se si riesce a capire come arrivarci. Purtroppo la manualistica è un po' scarna e il ricettario non porta ai risultati sperati, ma giocando al piccolo alchimista alla fine si ottengono bevande più che accettabili, sicuramente comparabili con i prodotti acquistabili in brick, ma senza adittivi o sorgenti discutibili.

It's really convenient and produces excellent results, if you can figure out how to get there. Unfortunately, the manual is a bit sparse, and the recipe book doesn't produce the desired results, but by playing the little alchemist, you end up with more than acceptable drinks, certainly comparable to those you buy in bulk, but without the additives or questionable sources.

Veramente comoda e produce degli ottimi risultati, se si riesce a capire come arrivarci. Purtroppo la manualistica è un po’ scarna e il ricettario non porta ai risultati sperati, ma giocando al piccolo alchimista alla fine si ottengono bevande più che accettabili, sicuramente comparabili con i prodotti acquistabili in brick, ma senza adittivi o sorgenti discutibili.

It's really convenient and produces excellent results, if you can figure out how to get there. Unfortunately, the manual is a bit sparse, and the recipe book doesn't produce the desired results, but by playing the little alchemist, you end up with more than acceptable drinks, certainly comparable to those you buy in bulk, but without the additives or questionable sources.

Muy satisfecho con la compra. Hace zumos muy fácilmente y aprovechando todas las fibras de la fruta. Tambien la he probado haciendo leche de almendras y sale buenísima. Otro punto bueno es que la máquina se limpia automáticamente.

Very satisfied with the purchase. It makes juices very easily and takes advantage of all the fruit fibers. I've also tried making almond milk with it, and it turns out delicious. Another plus is that the machine cleans itself automatically.

Много практична и удобна , функционална и не компактна.

Very practical and comfortable, functional and not compact.

Sie tut was sie soll. Ist idiotensicher zu bedienen und macht leckere Pflanzenmilch

It does what it's supposed to. It's foolproof to use and makes delicious plant-based milk.

Das Gerät an sich ist super. Mixt 1a, keine Rückstände im Gerät, Lautstärke ist ok. Die Sache mit der schlechten Bedienungsanleitung kann ich bestätigen. Hab mir eingebildet, dass ich im großen www schon genügend Infos auf bekannten und unbekannten Seiten bekommen werde. Fehlanzeige. Ich habe nichts gefunden. Das finde ich ein wenig unglücklich, da ich einige Knöpfe nicht einwandfrei übersetzen und zuordnen kann. Falls da jemand andere Erfahrungen gemacht hat, bin ich für Tipps und Tricks dankbar und offen.Ansonsten ist das Gerät top.

The device itself is great. It mixes perfectly, leaves no residue inside, and the noise level is fine. I can confirm the issue with the poor instruction manual. I thought I'd find plenty of information on the internet, both well-known and obscure sites. Wrong. I couldn't find anything. I find this a bit unfortunate, as I can't quite figure out the function of some of the buttons. If anyone has had different experiences, I'd be grateful for any tips and tricks. Otherwise, the device is excellent.

Super j'adore cette machine elle fonctionne très bien â part Les recette sont mal doser '

Great, I love this machine, it works very well except the recipes are poorly measured.

Bin sehr froh, mich für Maschine entschieden zu haben, auch wenn die Bewertungen nicht so toll waren. Hab diese Maschine nun schon ein paar Wochen und bin echt begeistert. Keine Probleme mehr bei der Herstellung von heißer Hafermilch mit bei einer anderen. Karotten, Bananen / Apfel Juice klappt wunderbar. Sojamilch usw. Man kann wirklich sämtliche Nüsse zur Pflanzenmilch Produktion verwenden. Bisher läuft wirklich alles fehlerfrei und sehr gut. Bin wirklich sehr zufrieden. In der Mahlkammer befindet sich ein Messer mit 5 Zähnen und nicht wie ich es zuvor hatte mit 4. Diese Maschine erzeugt für mich wesentlich feinere Ergebnisse.Bin rundum zufrieden und kann die Maschine nur weiterempfehlen.

I'm so glad I chose this machine, even though the reviews weren't great. I've had it for a few weeks now and I'm really impressed. No more problems making hot oat milk compared to my previous machine. Carrot, banana/apple juice works perfectly. Soy milk, etc. You can really use all kinds of nuts to make plant-based milk. So far, everything is working flawlessly and very well. I'm really very satisfied. The grinding chamber has a 5-tooth blade, unlike my previous machine which had 4 teeth. This machine produces much finer results for me. I'm completely satisfied and can highly recommend it.